If you were around in the mid 90’s – 2000’s then you would know when people walked into their local supplement shops and asked what they should take to get shredded. Despite what seemed like hundreds of products, the store owner would say thestack (Ephe, Caffeine & Aspirin) as if there wasn’t even a choice. For the past 7 years that has been an equally effective duo with the 1,3/caffeine stack. Most companies let the FDA intimidate them into stopping the sales of this extremely potent combination… Well not Hi-Tech!